Comments on: AzoogleAds Makes Good on New Referral Terms http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/ Let the Reign Begin Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:43:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Rayman http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-31774 Rayman Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:50:17 +0000 http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-31774 Maybe i'm crazy but since when does azoogle owe anyone referral commissions? I mean, isn't their job to pay their affiliates for generating traffic on cpa offers? If they dont want to have referral publishers anymore, let them be the ones to make this decision!? They obviously have way more publishers than they want, so why not spend the money more effectively. If I were running their business, I would do the same thing. Sure some people might get pissed off and blog about it, then they'll forget about it and move on. Theyre still the biggest network out there and thousands of affiliates still work with them, nothing changes for affiliates, especially if they went out of their way to accomodate big referrers like zac. Maybe i’m crazy but since when does azoogle owe anyone referral commissions? I mean, isn’t their job to pay their affiliates for generating traffic on cpa offers? If they dont want to have referral publishers anymore, let them be the ones to make this decision!? They obviously have way more publishers than they want, so why not spend the money more effectively. If I were running their business, I would do the same thing. Sure some people might get pissed off and blog about it, then they’ll forget about it and move on. Theyre still the biggest network out there and thousands of affiliates still work with them, nothing changes for affiliates, especially if they went out of their way to accomodate big referrers like zac.

]]> By: DotDriven http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-31087 DotDriven Sat, 02 Feb 2008 06:05:06 +0000 http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-31087 PS also, how does dropping it down to 6 months downline stop those "smart" people that seem to be making azoogle go this route? Of course they can change their TOS as they wish and affiliate can decide to stay with them or not, it really feels like they are trying to come up with excuses after seeing the backlash. PS also, how does dropping it down to 6 months downline stop those “smart” people that seem to be making azoogle go this route?

Of course they can change their TOS as they wish and affiliate can decide to stay with them or not, it really feels like they are trying to come up with excuses after seeing the backlash.

]]> By: DotDriven http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-31076 DotDriven Sat, 02 Feb 2008 05:49:24 +0000 http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-31076 Zac, you don't have to pretend like you are ok with the supposed changes just because they contacted you ;). Although their reasoning behind it is understandable their method isn't as much. How about just make it painfully obvious that it is against the terms to refer yourself and anyone suspected of it will be reviewed and all earnings held and their account banned once found out. I'm sure it would be a pain, and they would have to babysit still but that is how it goes. I very much doubt that adding the 1k threshold will stop those that like to take advantage of things and if that is all that is done then they know what it takes to get past it. But in the mean time, all the actual good affiliates get penalized and have to jump through hoops and be "approved" to be able to earn commissions on referrals. Reminds me of how much I hate when video game companies would put super crazy copyright protection that the pirates would hack in days anyway and the only ones that ended up having to deal with the frustration were the real customers. I always thought it was better to take care of your honest and loyal customers first and deal with those that aren't on an individual bases, rather than the other way around. I'm still tasting various networks to see which flow I like best but this definitely makes me want to concentrate on the ones that make it easy to promote and recommend. Zac, you don’t have to pretend like you are ok with the supposed changes just because they contacted you ;). Although their reasoning behind it is understandable their method isn’t as much. How about just make it painfully obvious that it is against the terms to refer yourself and anyone suspected of it will be reviewed and all earnings held and their account banned once found out. I’m sure it would be a pain, and they would have to babysit still but that is how it goes.

I very much doubt that adding the 1k threshold will stop those that like to take advantage of things and if that is all that is done then they know what it takes to get past it.

But in the mean time, all the actual good affiliates get penalized and have to jump through hoops and be “approved” to be able to earn commissions on referrals.

Reminds me of how much I hate when video game companies would put super crazy copyright protection that the pirates would hack in days anyway and the only ones that ended up having to deal with the frustration were the real customers.

I always thought it was better to take care of your honest and loyal customers first and deal with those that aren’t on an individual bases, rather than the other way around.

I’m still tasting various networks to see which flow I like best but this definitely makes me want to concentrate on the ones that make it easy to promote and recommend.

]]> By: YoRapper http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-30798 YoRapper Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:34:17 +0000 http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-30798 I don't get what Alex is saying. If you refer your sister and you set up the account for her, you still have to make money within that account to make the 2% referral commission. If someone makes up say 1000 "fake" accounts they are still going to have to make money in all those accounts in order to generate the 2% kickback. If you can some how manage 1000 accounts and make good money on all of them you should be rewarded the aggregate 2% of each account, cause man that's one hard working person. The bigger problem is if an affiliate has to go to all this trouble just to make an extra 2% what does this say about Azoogle's payouts and more importantly about their communication with their affiliates? More over, the $1000 threshold is a good threshold, but cutting the lifetime commissions down to 6 months is a little harsh. A year or tow years would be more acceptable, since most newbies don't start earning a lot till their 6 months in anyway. I don’t get what Alex is saying. If you refer your sister and you set up the account for her, you still have to make money within that account to make the 2% referral commission. If someone makes up say 1000 “fake” accounts they are still going to have to make money in all those accounts in order to generate the 2% kickback. If you can some how manage 1000 accounts and make good money on all of them you should be rewarded the aggregate 2% of each account, cause man that’s one hard working person.

The bigger problem is if an affiliate has to go to all this trouble just to make an extra 2% what does this say about Azoogle’s payouts and more importantly about their communication with their affiliates?

More over, the $1000 threshold is a good threshold, but cutting the lifetime commissions down to 6 months is a little harsh. A year or tow years would be more acceptable, since most newbies don’t start earning a lot till their 6 months in anyway.

]]> By: Tim http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-30778 Tim Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:42:45 +0000 http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-30778 Wow, now mentors that offered help to their referrals have stopped doing so. Thank you Azoogle! Wow, now mentors that offered help to their referrals have stopped doing so. Thank you Azoogle!

]]> By: Furniture Store http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-30626 Furniture Store Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:57:12 +0000 http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-30626 I wonder if your previos post about them had anything to do with them trying to make amends?;) I wonder if your previos post about them had anything to do with them trying to make amends?;)

]]> By: Adam http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-30537 Adam Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:21:42 +0000 http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-30537 They can explain all they want. They fact is those terms suck bad for affiliates. Bottom line. The problem with people signing up as their sister is not the affiliates problem. That's Azoogle's problem, not mine. But Azoogle has just passed that problem on to the affiliate so they don't have to deal with it. Azoogle sucks! http://www.wealthstore.com They can explain all they want. They fact is those terms suck bad for affiliates. Bottom line. The problem with people signing up as their sister is not the affiliates problem. That’s Azoogle’s problem, not mine. But Azoogle has just passed that problem on to the affiliate so they don’t have to deal with it.

Azoogle sucks!

http://www.wealthstore.com

]]> By: Sucker http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-30520 Sucker Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:55:36 +0000 http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-30520 I would venture a guess that referring yourself was always against the terms, so now they're just enforcing the rules a bit more. Sounds fair to me. :) I would venture a guess that referring yourself was always against the terms, so now they’re just enforcing the rules a bit more. Sounds fair to me. :)

]]> By: r.idiculous.com http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-30483 r.idiculous.com Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:22:24 +0000 http://zacjohnson.com/azoogleads-makes-good-on-new-referral-terms/#comment-30483 This almost makes it sound worse. People try to optimize income. That is the name of the game. That is why people check all affiliate programs for offers to get the one that converts/pays out the best. Seems like a few ebooks will have to be rewritten/updated for this change. I guess they are waiting to cash in on the IPO and shedding the fat before hand. This almost makes it sound worse. People try to optimize income. That is the name of the game. That is why people check all affiliate programs for offers to get the one that converts/pays out the best. Seems like a few ebooks will have to be rewritten/updated for this change. I guess they are waiting to cash in on the IPO and shedding the fat before hand.

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